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Welcome back to each just athlete.
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I'm your host Kush can deal well, and I am so stoked for today's episode.
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Why.
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Well, because you're breaking the mold.
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Instead of one or maybe two guests.
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I am joined by a powerhouse group of five.
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Incredible women from the San Francisco bay area.
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Mountain biking scene.
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These women are transforming the face of mind, biking in California.
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Friends.
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If you have been with me so far, I am so grateful for you for continuing to tune in.
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If you have listened to this show for three episodes or more.
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I would so love it.
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If you would leave a review on apple podcasts Or wherever else you find your podcasts.
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If you have just joined us.
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Would love for you to keep coming back to the show.
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This is not your average interview.
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These women, they gathered up in Santa Cruz and the field up on generous and famous frittatas To make time to speak with me today.
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They are so excited to share their passion for mountain biking and incredible community.
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They have built together.
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Get ready to meet.
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First Jessica, a former tech leader who created in Silicon valley for the Redwood forest to empower them through my making.
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She coaches, mountain biking teams.
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And she races, Enduro and downhill.
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Jessica is a total rockstar and I am so grateful to her for introducing me to the rest of this group.
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Jenna.
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He is a battalion chief.
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The 25 years in a bay area fire department.
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She has been writing for 35 years.
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Coach's for ninja man biking and even placed in her age group at the Sierra classic.
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Did I mention she's also a pilot.
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Uh, rock Labrot and an adaptive instructor.
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She's an audit on badass.
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Henry is 70.
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She didn't start mind biking until she was 50.
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Wow.
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Now she's a certified instructor.
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She leads rides for girls rock.
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And marker.
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And continues to raise Enduro.
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Well, yeah.
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She proves it's never too late to shred.
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Lisa is president of Mirka Mirka.
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is Monterey off-road cycling association.
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And a certified instructor who grew up riding dirt bikes, and now shares a love for two wheels with countless others.
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And finally.
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We have Alexis.
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Who is the president and co-founder of cause rock.
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And organization dedicated to creating a welcoming and supportive space for women in mind, biking.
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Veeva.
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Dive in.
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To the inspiring stories of transformation.
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Resilience and breaking down barriers, you will hear of how the navigated cultural expectations.
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Overcame physical setbacks and discovered the power of female comradery on and off the trail.
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They will explain how they changing their traditionally male dominated sport by creating supportive spaces for women of all ages and backgrounds to learn, grow, and thrive.
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They will also share the secrets for staying fit.
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Fueled.
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And mentally strong, no matter what life throws their way.
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Plus, we will uncover the magic of organizations like gastroc and Mirka.
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Shining a light on the dedication to inclusivity and expanding access to this incredible sport.
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So well, It doesn't matter if you're a seasoned Strader or just curious about exploring the world of mountain biking.
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Get ready for the really fun conversation felt wet.
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Lots of laughs inspiration.
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Some.
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Great stories.
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And breathtaking scenery.
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You might even find yourself inspired to head the trans yourself.
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Let's roll.
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Hi.
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We are recording with the ageless athlete podcast this morning.
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Normally I speak to one or two people today.
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I am blessed and fortunate to have, not one, not two, but five incredible mountain biking athletes on the show.
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Just to start off it, if you guys can please tell me your names.
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tell me where you're from and also share what you had for breakfast this morning.
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right.
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Um, we can start with him.
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I'm laughing.
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Uh, my name's Henrietta Stern.
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I'm from Pacific Grove, California.
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I had a little pre breakfast of oatmeal and a smoothie, but the main event was a delicious frittata made by Jenna.
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my name's Jessica.
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I'm from San Jose, California.
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And I did have a pre breakfast as well.
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Um, I had a little bit of granola with slices of banana in it with milk.
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Um, and Jenna's awesome frittata.
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Alexis Morgan, I'm from Santa Cruz and I had virtually the same breakfast as Jessica.
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Blueberries as well and frittata for my brunch.
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Yes.
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I'm Lisa from Salinas, California and I had my own version of Nut and seed and coconut cereal this morning, and then the frittata, the infamous frittata.
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Good morning, I'm Jenna, I live in Aptos, California, and, uh, yeah, kind of going with the flow.
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I had to have a little something before I hit the trail this morning, and then frittata with the group.
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She's the infamous maker of the frittata.
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Alright,
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I'm so glad you guys could be together.
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I am really missing out on me, me not being there in person myself.
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And, uh, thanks also for sharing this little sneak peek into, let's say your, uh, nutrition strategies.
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There's a pre breakfast involved and then there's this proper breakfast.
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Uh, hopefully, you know, this, uh, this recording will be more fun and, and not, not a grueling, uh, grueling race where you, uh, will need to, uh, refuel again during, during the conversation.
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Let's start with you, Jessica.
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Jessica, thank you again for bringing this great group together.
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Before you became a mountain biking athlete full time and all the other things you do, you left this place we, we met at, where we worked together in, uh, in the tech industry in Silicon Valley.
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And now you've made it, made it a mission to, uh, empower women through mountain biking full time.
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Can you share a bit more about what you do and what made you take up this transition.
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uh huh, sure, yeah.
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Um, yeah, so Kush, I had the pleasure of working with you and at Airbnb, um, yeah, it was, uh, I worked in the corporate world for 20 plus years, left it at the end of last year to, to do this mission of mine full time, which is empowering women through mountain biking.
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all of us here, we mountain bike, and it's something we're extremely passionate about.
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Um, it is something that can be challenging, mountain biking.
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And this sport is very intimidating for females.
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So, I'm a mountain bike coach, and I've taught both men and women.
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And, um, women are more thoughtful when they mountain bike, um, when they approach things.
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and they can be more fearful of getting hurt and tackling something that might look scary.
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Um, and so, um, you know, my mission is to empower women through mountain biking.
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Um, a lot of times I talk to women that have never mountain biked before, and they look at me in their first sentence as always, well, I don't want to break my bones.
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Um, and I can tell you, that, you know, we, we love what we do and we're not here to break our bones.
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Um, our entire mission really is to inspire confidence in girls and women through mountain biking and to build a community around this.
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So, um, I won't lie.
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This is a pretty tough sport.
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But what I love about this sport is, is that it teaches people grit.
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Perseverance and courage.
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Um, I can tell you, I'm inspired every day when I take girls and women on the trail.
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Um, they see a feature they're nervous about, um, and then they try and try it, and then they overcome this fear and they successfully tackle it.
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thanks for clarifying this right away that, you did not undertake the sport to break bones, but you did it to, uh, go out in the outdoors and test your mettle and all of that.
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Any other common misconceptions you want to clear right away about the sport of mountain biking?
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Absolutely.
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Um, misconceptions, um, well, I mean, Um, I guess when you say misconceptions, I mean, it's a really fun sport.
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Um, mountain biking can be, you know, a variety of different terrains.
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for example, you know, sometimes a trail, can be really mild or flat, um, and, you know, when, when, uh, sometimes a terrain can be pretty technical.
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So, um, for example, here in Silicon Valley in the Santa Cruz area, um, you know, we can ride through grassy fields or redwood forests.
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Um, you know, we're climbing hills, sometimes we're descending over technical routes and rocks, um, the terrain can sometimes be, um, you know, steep, it can be gnarly, um, sometimes it can get really, really narrow, um, and what we call single track.
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Um, and what we're doing is a lot of times we're descending over these obstacles and features with speed.
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Um, so I'd say, you know, it kind of describes our sport, um, a little bit, you know, it can be mild or it can be pretty technical.
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Sometimes it can be scary to people.
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and what's super great about this sport is we're out there together.
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enjoying the outdoors.
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Enjoying these hills, enjoying the forest, and just, um, you know, watching each other tackle these challenging, uh, obstacles on the trail and being successful at it.
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Yes.
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You're out there riding these beautiful trails.
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we're lucky to have so many of them in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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What is your favorite trail here?
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my favorite trail, it's actually closed right now, but, uh, on the weekdays, um, but my favorite trail is probably, um, what we call Sokol Demonstration Forest, um, out there, um, there, there's a variety of trails, um, there's one trail that's pretty world famous, it's called the Flow Trail, um, a lot of it is human made, um, and it's very flowy, it's a downhill trail, you have to climb, um, Pretty hard to get up there and then it kind of flows through the forest among the trees and it's a single track.
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Um, and it's just an absolutely beautiful trail.
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Um, my favorite trail out there is probably Braille, which is next to the flow trail.
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Um, it's technical.
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It's steep.
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It's got roots and I just love climbing that trail because it's natural.
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it's out there.
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It's beautiful.
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It's hard.
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And it's also just a ton of fun.
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I've been hearing about the Floor Trail for many years.
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Uh, one of these days, I hope to make it down there and, uh, Yeah, maybe, uh, I'd be lucky to have one of you join me on that ride,
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Absolutely.
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I'm a minority male, uh, I'm an Asian male and I often do these sports where.
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Traditionally, they have been dominated by, let's say, uh, white men.
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It's changing for, for the better.
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Seeing women out there whether I'm climbing or, or surfing or whatnot, again, that is changing, but still the representation is not quite there.
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You are an Asian female, which I think is even more rare to find, uh, women, minority women out there, uh, doing these, uh, sports.
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how do you navigate some of the cultural, uh, norms and expectations, with some of your upbringing, with what is expected from you, perhaps, what your family expects from you, um, what your community expects from you, and how do you kind of manage those, expectations people have?
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And, uh, what has been your experience?
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Yeah, um, I have to say, um, yeah, I've never considered myself a sporty person.
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Um, when I was growing up, I actually never did sports in high school or college.
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Um, and I only started mountain biking later in life.
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Um, I grew up in LA, in Los Angeles, and in a very traditional Chinese family.
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Um, you know, my traditional mom taught me not to get too much sun.
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Don't get hurt.
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Don't climb trees, you know, sit with your legs closed, walk like.
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So, um, yeah.
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So when my husband introduced me in a mountain biking, I just felt so empowered.
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Um, and it really made me feel tough.
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So, every time I rode over roots and rocks that I was scared of, I felt really good.
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Um, so I wanted to share that inspiration with other women.
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So now I'm a mountain bike coach for kids and adults.
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Um, and I'm on the board of several mountain biking organizations.
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Um, and my mission is to inspire more girls and women into this sport.
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I started racing in my 40s and started teaching mountain biking, um, in my, in my late 40s.
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and, uh, started racing in my early forties and, um, started teaching in my late forties, and I'm turning 50 this year, and there aren't a lot of older women racing in downhill or enduro, um, which is what I've been doing, um, this year.
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And I think it's really important to continue to see female faces out there on the race course, whether they're Asian or not.
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You know, just seeing women in the sport is great.
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and I have to say, um, so, so a great, uh, mountain biker once told me a quote that mountain biking is a great equalizer.
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And I absolutely love that quote because it doesn't matter what you look like or what you do out there.
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or your level of fitness.
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Um, we all get together and we have so much fun on the trails and we make these lasting friendships and just, we just meet extraordinary women and we support each other.
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So I just absolutely love that sport because of that reason.
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Great answer.
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finally, Jessica, you left a perfectly good career.
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One that we shared a little tenure
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Yeah.
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to take up this cause full time.
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What was maybe one key reason why you did that?
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I have to say my mom probably wouldn't have approved of me doing that.
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My traditional mom, but you know, I've been thinking about this for a while and yes, you're right.
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I mean, yeah, I was, you know, being Paid pretty well and managed a large team.
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And I've been thinking about this for a long time and, you know, I'm hitting my 50, hitting 50 this year.
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And, uh, you know, I thought I should try it, you know, why not just do it?
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I mean, this is something I really believe in.
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Um, you know, while I was working in the corporate world at Airbnb, I had started.
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Teaching already.
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Um, and I've been, you know, with girls rock for about nine years or so.
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And so I kind of knew what I was walking into, but it was also just, um, you know, saying goodbye to something pretty big in my life that took up, I don't know, a huge part of my life walking away from the corporate world and, you know, doing mountain biking full time.
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Um, but yeah, I mean, since I've left the corporate world and taken this up, I'd say I have no regrets at all.
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I absolutely love what I'm doing and I'm just inspired every day by what I do.
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You are evidently touching and influencing people in a very fundamental way.
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And this is a great segue to hear a little bit about Girls Rock, this organization that you just mentioned.
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So maybe turning this over to Alexis, can you tell us first, who are and why did you found Girls Rock.
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And what does Girls Rock do today?
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so my name is Alexis Morgan and I live in Santa Cruz.
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I was not technically the founder of Girls Rock.
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My friend, Jessica Klodnicki founded it when she was running Bell Helmets.
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And the idea was that she would She wanted to get women together to ride bikes, uh, and she was just starting out in her own mountain biking journey and had discovered it and wanted to get more women out there because she thought, um, it would be a way for her to learn how to mountain bike.
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she was right and she continues to mountain bike today, but she had to move away for work.
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And so when she moved away, she handed off the keys to the organization to myself and to a woman named Julianne Klein.
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And together with a bunch of women who were involved in the group already, we decided, really the way to keep this going, When people, you know, inevitably move on and have other things to do is to create a non profit so they would have another life, um, beyond us.
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And that's what we did in 2017.
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And So the whole purpose of Girls Rock is to provide rides and resources to women and female identifying people.
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and we, our core offering is a monthly social no drop ride that's free.
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Uh, it's hosted by various, businesses and Santa Cruz.
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And what we do is we meet at the host and it's usually a restaurant, a brewery or a wine tasting room.
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And we meet there in the morning, we break out into smaller groups by ride level, and then we go out to the trails and we have a great time.
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And when we come back to our cars, we usually stick around for a bit and socialize.
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So that's what we do, and we've been doing that for 10 years in June, so we're really excited that it keeps going.
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Well, early congratulations on your upcoming anniversary.
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I was doing a little bit of research this weekend for our chat this morning, and I happened to chance upon this lovely little video of a group of you guys going out for a ride.
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And, the energy and the excitement was contagious.
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I am wondering If you've had a couple of moments recently where you felt, aha, this is why I do what I do.
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It could be where perhaps you felt transformed personally, or it could be, one of your students or fellow writers go through this big elevating change.
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Would love for you to share.
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so many moments where I'm reminded of, uh, why we do what we do.
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Um, I can't even count the number of times I've said to myself, well, that was totally worth it.
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And usually the scenario involves me guiding a group of women and there's somebody Who's very quiet and they're in the back and they said they were not sure that this was right for them and then by the end of the ride they're smiling and they're giving people high fives and they are totally engaged.
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And, um, participating with, uh, with the rest of the group.
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So I just, I like to see people brought along and realize that, yes, this is for them.
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Uh, the sport isn't necessarily about, getting rad and going fast Be loud and gnarly, um, it, it's perfectly fine to just ride, uh, off road in the dirt and enjoy the trees and the blue sky and hear the birds and be that kind of rider too.
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So,
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Hang on.
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So can, can just anybody like show up if they are female identified and they are interested in mountain biking?
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What is like the, uh, like if somebody is listening to this podcast, it gets inspired.
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Can they just go to your website, sign up for a ride?
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Uh, do they need to have a mountain bike with them?
